Station 5: Our transit system

Here are some of the transit needs that others have mentioned:

  • Too expensive. How will it run driving late effect snow storms. What if train breaks down? How do you get around it?
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 3:55:38 PM)

  • Great opportunity for environmental protection.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 3:54:52 PM)

  • You need to work on the public perception of who takes the bus. Amen. Yes, absolutely true.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 3:54:34 PM)

  • Construct a light rail system for CNY.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 3:53:57 PM)

  • Lack of coordination with current problems (city streets).
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 3:53:45 PM)

  • It would be nice to have more public transportation on the Geddes St Corridor to cut transfer time and help a community with few cars.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 3:53:25 PM)

  • All options must address light rail/other mass transit at same time as doing 81 fix.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 3:47:52 PM)

  • Signal prioritization for buses.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 3:27:30 PM)

  • Monorail.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 3:19:29 PM)

  • Make transit more attractive by increasing car transit times.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 3:19:19 PM)

  • Attractive public transit can greatly reduce cost of living in CNY. Must have!
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 3:18:58 PM)

  • Why is there no bus to airport? Amen!
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 3:18:10 PM)

  • Why is there no bus connection to our airport?
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 3:17:28 PM)

  • Combine boulevard strategy with monorail to have an approach aligning with what could be less on fossil fuel should have.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 3:17:15 PM)

  • Combine boulevard strategy with monorail to have an approach aligning with what could be less on fossil fuel should have.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 3:03:42 PM)

  • A number of issues: 1. The hub and spoke system has to go. It makes it take an hour to get somewhere that is 15 minutes away by car. 2. People don't want to take the bus because of the people who take the bus*. In Syracuse, very few middle class people are on the bus, and we find the people who are on it scary. * Anymore
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 3:01:42 PM)

  • If travel by bus takes less time and is cheaper than driving, people will come to the bus stops, but where are they? I.e. bus stops, and when is the bus coming?
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:59:41 PM)

  • Centro has already discontinued vital routes. No more incentive to take the bus if you have to drive out of the way to pick one up. Service cuts due to lack of $$$, so where will it come from? Metro area does not have the population density to support it at this time.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:58:43 PM)

  • Where do the wheelchairs go?
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:57:14 PM)

  • Put in the Park St. bridge for OnTrack and develop coordinated service between Amtrak, Downtown, and Syracuse University, perhaps even to Jamesville Beach. OnTrack went out of existence at a time when use should actually have been increasing but service had become almost non-existent.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:56:55 PM)

  • If you make it impossible or horribly inconvenient to get from one side of the city to the other. Light rail will be the only answer.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:56:55 PM)

  • Rail to OCC.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:55:53 PM)

  • Convert 81 North of city to light rail system.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:55:40 PM)

  • Use cars that drive themselves so no has to worry about others driving. Have a small ring around the downtown area and only use public transportation. Take all the bridges down and make access lanes North to South, East to West in several areas.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:55:16 PM)

  • More bike lanes! Yeah!!
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:54:58 PM)

  • Add LT Rail.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:54:43 PM)

  • I agree. Hub and spoke can stay but there should be a perimeter. Vis a vis D.C. Metro.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:54:31 PM)

  • I take a CENTRO express bus from No. Syr to upstate and it's awesome. Need more express routes with more trips throughout the day (my bus runs 3x in AM and 3x in PM - not at all in the middle of the day.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:54:08 PM)

  • Must be part of solution.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:52:30 PM)

  • Needs to consider an alternative to bus - people in cold climates drive cars will not spend several hours in cold.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:52:14 PM)

  • Take the city back from the highway and look at all innovative alternative transportation systems. I love my car, but let's plan for the future.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:51:21 PM)

  • A call system monorail based for transit carry of 10-20 people max - commuter call and delivery sites programmed nonstop.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:50:57 PM)

  • Safety and complete streets, access for those who can't drive, a trolley along Erie Blvd. median!
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:50:36 PM)

  • Bring back the "old" CENTRO! We need more buses, not less! I second!
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:49:55 PM)

  • A monorail system would be worth considering. Less roadway up keep. No weather related problems. Good pedestrian flow. Great aesthetics. Portland ORE system works ok.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:49:52 PM)

  • Finish the Ontrack Line from C. Mall across Park St. to the Trans. Center and Ball Park. Track and Bridge are there. All that is needed is vision to get it done!
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:49:21 PM)

  • Requires intensive maintenance even in more temperate climates.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:48:31 PM)

  • Transit options need to be convenient - with short wait times and attractive stops. Transit is vital. We must find a way to increase ridership.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:48:29 PM)

  • Last year, I took the bus to work, but they eliminated the bus at the time I took it. The bus line is still there, but I'd have to leave my house at 7:00 AM for an 8:30 AM job. (I'd get there at 7:40 AM.) The next bus goes there about 8:45 AM. I drive now!
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:47:49 PM)

  • Transit should definitely be included regardless of the chosen scheme. Salina St. streetcar perhaps?
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:46:39 PM)

  • A BRT (bus rapid transit) along Salina St. north to the transportation center and down to the south side would improve quality of life and mobility of city residents.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:45:56 PM)

  • Bus fares can't be 2-4 dollars if you expect riders who are not already desperate and careless.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:45:47 PM)

  • Saving money on this 81 thing won't hep the average bus rider.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:45:15 PM)

  • Transit is critical to the whole picture. Glad to see that this is being considered!
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:45:03 PM)

  • As a commuter from Liverpool, I have no incentive to take public transportation. Parking is easy and 15 minutes of "rush hour" is nothing. Until gas is $100/gal, it is not beneficial to stand in the snow and ride a bus/train.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:44:44 PM)

  • Vehicle parking all day at suburban stop points.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:44:34 PM)

  • The network is so limited and the buses are so infrequent that it will be impossible for me to use.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:44:13 PM)

  • Connections to other transport services are so important. Parking to bus to bike to train to airports - should all be linked seamlessly!
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:43:16 PM)

  • Late night DWI prevention T.O.D.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:43:16 PM)

  • Get serious about promoting bike transit. Not an "add on" to existing roads. Make real bike roads.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:42:46 PM)

  • Really need to seek funding to expand CENTRO. It doesn't go to a lot of the suburbs! I had better mass transit in another county in NY that's more rural than in Onondaga! Also - link mass transit to Cortland and Madison Counties. Work with DOT on this, please!
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:42:36 PM)

  • CENTRO must be available to and appeal to progressive types who live in the burbs - there are actually a lot of us.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:41:50 PM)

  • The whole bus system needs to be redesigned. A central station is only useful for buses that go to the far suburbs or long distance. City buses need to be accessed everywhere and go North to South and West to East, e.g. a circular system with crosstown buses.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:41:21 PM)

  • Marketing campaign for CENTRO - Directed at middle class commuters/yuppies - solve public image problem.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:41:16 PM)

  • I would love for Syracuse to consider street car routes or a subway system along Genesee Street! Central New York public transit is in desperate need of improvement.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:39:23 PM)

  • Better access for areas outside city (such as Jamesville).
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:38:54 PM)

  • Public transit is only part of the solution. Any improvements in transit will reduce traffic counts only slightly. Not enough population density in Syracuse to have any real impact.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:38:18 PM)

  • Alternative fuel transportation.
    (Posted on:5/31/2012 2:38:15 PM)

  • It would be great to revive OnTrack and create a park and ride option for those arriving at the southern end of the new boulevard from 81. Let them get off, take the train to downtown, the mall, the regional transportation center, the regional market, the airport. This could also serve SU and University Hill. Would have to run frequently. The frequent, free bus service on U Hill is hugely successful and very user-friendly. I would love to see this extended for all city residents -- if you pay taxes in the city, you should get some priority access to the bus system, since you are reducing your impact on other city services by leaving your car at home.
    (Posted on:5/26/2012 8:43:19 PM)

  • Not sure this applies, but my 7 year old son suggested a giant slide from the dome down the hill to the parking garage. :-) I currently never use the transit system, but used to love Ontrack for Dome events. I would suggest that they come up with new ways to educate the public how to use the transit system, and maybe offer free rides all day sometime to show how it works to us non-users. I know it is probably simple, but not sure about how the hub works when you have to switch buses. Color coding routes such as NYC subway lines may help.
    (Posted on:5/16/2012 8:56:36 PM)

  • In 25-50 years, due to increasingly warmer (read: unpleasant) temperatures down south, as well as currently ongoing and planned improvements in the city and its surrounding suburbs, the population of this region will increase dramatically, possibly back to pre-WWII levels. It is absolutely essential to include a light-rail system in the redesign of I-81.
    (Posted on:5/15/2012 12:07:28 AM)

  • I think other colleges in the area other than just SU need to be considered when talking about mass transit. Lemoyne and OCC should receive more mass transit, especially OCC with their addition of the SRC Arena. They're starting to hold some large events and Centro only runs a few buses up there. College kids look for fun things to do, so make the transportation available to get them there.
    (Posted on:5/11/2012 12:54:14 AM)

  • I miss the Stop Strathmore Route. I can use West Onondaga but it is not as convenient. I do like the bike racks on the front of the buses. They cone in handy when it rains downtown.
    (Posted on:5/9/2012 7:15:36 PM)

  • 1. Bicycle travel across the I-481 right of way is harrowing. I know for certain that I am one of a very small number of commuters who cross this right-of-way fairly regularly, at least during summer months. The painted bicycle lanes across the I-481 on- and off-ramps are a pathetic joke. They provide no protection at all for bicyclists--perhaps increasing danger to bicyclists by guiding us falsely to an incredibly dangerous location. There is a fairly simple solution to this problem, that should be investigated by the CNYRTA. There is an existing underpass under I-481, due east of Manlius Pebble Hill School, carrying a creek (actually, I believe, the old canal feeder). This is wide enough--at least 40 feet (I have hiked through that underpass), that a bicycle path could be constructed along it. With paved connections running alongside creeks through Town-of-Dewitt-owned parkland, and across Holy Cross Cemetery and behind May Memorial Church, could easily be turned into a nice, flat major bicycle connector between the City of Syracuse and Dewitt, as well as other eastern suburbs. 2. The OnTrack trains should be put back into service, and extended. They were poorly scheduled when they operated between about 1998 and 2004--with service ending at about 10 p.m. even on weekends. If they had operated until 2 a.m., they would have provided the best, safest connection between University dormitories and Armory Square nightspots. Train service needs to be reinstated. When it is, it must run between the University and Armory Square until 2 a.m. on weekend evenings, and at least until midnight between the University and Destiny USA, so that students can rely on the trains to ferry them both to and from late movies. If newly planned nightclub(s) at Destiny are opened, then service needs to run until 2 a.m. there, as well. Frequency of train service also needs to be increased from the once-per-hour that it was during the 1998-2004 period, to at least 3 times per hour. I believe that the only way that this could be done is to find a way to allow the single track to carry trains in both directions. A careful computer-regulated switching system should permit trains traveling in opposite directions to pass each other while both are in the Armory station, where there is a side track and a switch.
    (Posted on:5/9/2012 4:10:14 PM)

  • I think more mass transit is definitely the way to go for the future of CNY.
    (Posted on:5/9/2012 1:40:55 PM)

 
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