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Terminate I-81 to city streets. Through traffic to I-481
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Still provides thru-traffic, allows for stronger pedestrian crossings
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Getting rid of the ugly structure and reclaiming the neighborhood.
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Nice alternative
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OK with below-grade roadway
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You could let commercial interests build over the highway like they have done over 90 in Newton, MA
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Plan encourages walking, and, I hope, with adequate safety, traffic signals, etc
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Cost would be low
Sufficient room for pedestrian traffic
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Lessens the barrier
Encourages foot traffic from SU to downtown
Leaves room for parks and green space with art diverting traffic around the city
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Attention to restoring connectivity
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May be less expensive than buried. Like the idea of taking down the barrier. Pedestrian-friendly
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I like the connective corridors
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Blue is pretty
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I think this offers the best scenario.
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The highway takes up less space than before and has better pedestrian access to the riverfront
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Gets rid of the viaduct.
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A nice compromise from the expense of the tunnel.
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Seems ok. Minneapolis has this. It's not bad, but doesn't make a good edge.
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I like this - accessable, walkable, still effective for travel at high speeds.
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Better option than elevated or buried. More cost effective and less of a visual barrier.
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Better connections between both sides of the highway.
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Potential to bring city together with creative landscaping. Flooding/runoff issues?
Good compromise.
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Like inclusion of public space.
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Shows some continuity with northern I-81 section through downtown. Pedestrian walkways would be street level and concentrated making them safer. Less of a visual barrier.
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Shows continuity with northern I-81 section through downtown. Pedestrian walkways would be street level and concentrated making them safer. Less of a visual barrier.
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Like inclusion of public space.
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Like inclusion of public space.
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I like this to remove visual barriers between Ed/Med and downtown. But snow removal and runoff control are major issues.
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Gives the option of building a park above the freeway. See I-5 in Seattle and I-95 in Philadelphia for more examples.
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Could put bridges across for streets, bikes, walkways and parking pads.
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Good compromise between current design and The Big Dig concept. If streetscape above/around the highway was well vegetated with a proper tree canopy and walkable human scaled insfrastructure, I think this design could work REALLY WELL.
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Seems like the best compromise - accidents are a concern but no change/ different from other option.
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It can help with the water runoff into Onondaga Lake and adds beauty to our city.
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I think it should be lower.
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seems to have improved city /waterfront separation
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I like the use of reclaimed area. Also redesign of connecting streets
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Highway corridor less visual - reduces visual impact of highway. Reduces costs of high-maintenance elevated roadways. Should reduce ambient noise levels in areas adjacent to the highway corridor
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This is the best solution of all if costs can be contained. Rapid access to/from downtown is maintained. Visual impact is reduced. Noise is contained. Increased safety - cars can't fall off
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If the current cross streets were preserved, the bridges were of similar design to the new bridges (Butternut), and green space was included, this could be an option
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Yes! Hybrid design of depressed highway for few blocks and tunnel under blocks for green areas above
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Visually! Aesthetically! And still moves traffic
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Connection to Riverfront development
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The potential of making direct connections over the highway to the waterfront
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Yes - keep traffic moving through city but with greenery, visual aesthetics
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Better than the current configuration! Maybe not the best
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would have to build and maintain bridges. The northern section just had to upgrade the existing bridges and it made traffic a nightmare.
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Philadelphia has this (near the Delaware River). It cuts all tourism off from Old City to the waterfront. Noisy.
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Bridges=expensive maintenance
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Still depresses the value of the corridor and discourages investment.
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Still a major barrier between downtown and hospitals and university
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Still a barrier
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Safety a concern with drop.
Environmental impacts on Syracuse's groundwater.
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Water buildup
Will be very dirty
Snow removal?
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Who is going to pump out water and at what cost?
Operation
Look at closing last week.
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Still divides
I don't see any walkers in the photos
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What happens if you depress a highway in a swamp?
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Shares the need for expansion of footprint, thus degrading the neighborhood further
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Do not want barrier
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I'm familiar with 2 similar depressed highways in Twin Cities. It's still very noisy and spews exhaust into the air.
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Greater barrier and could it accommodate traffic?
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Not comparable enough
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Snow removal
Water table
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But if you reduce exits then the current exit/onramp system needs a major improvement.
I like the idea of streets crossing over the highway areas, but as some have pointed out - IF this town ever grows, you have limited ability to expand - Look at the Route 31 section under Route 81 at Cicero exit. Once again - all the government individuals watched as housing development after development STILL goes up in Cicero and that section of Route 31 is a disaster.
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The highway still seems like a barrier
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Still separates the Hill from Downtown, but could put more bridges over a depressed 81.
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What will be done with the snow?
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Will run into groundwater handling problems.
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Not that different from a raised highway. Looks like a concrete river.
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Seems like too many existing things would have to be removed.
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Pollution!
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Divides city even more than other concepts.
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lthough right-of-ways are not affected, depressing the highway would be very expensive because cross-streets will also require new bridges built.
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$$, pumps, flooding.
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$$, pumps, flooding
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Although right-of-ways are not affected, depressing the highway would be very expensive because cross-streets will also require new bridges built.
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Although right-of-ways are not affectd, depressing the highway would be very expensive because cross-streets will also require new bridges built.
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Snow removal could be difficult.
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Still assumes a high speed road needs to pass through the city. Doesn't seem to be the case.
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Not enough access to city - no exits. Not much difference from what exists, just lower.
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Too much like current set up.
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This doesn't solve the problem of separating neighborhoods - better to stay with an improved viaduct.
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What happens when we have a lot of rain - it will flood.
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Better access for people to "jump in" or drive off the road into - drunks. Flooding after heavy rains and tons of snow - where will it go?
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What are constuction costs? Still takes land which could be developed.green space.
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Depressing it could make the disconnection worse between the Hill and downtown.
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Just like the Cross Bronx Expressway - No, no, no!
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Not practical - doesn't remove the barrier that I-81 creates.
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Snow?
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What happens where there's an accident down there?
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Safety issues - throwing things from bridge.
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Drainage problems. Still takes up same amount of land. Costs.
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Slow down traffic - efficiency. We need 3 raised lanes north and south.
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I don't see how this improved transit issues in the city.
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It should be thinner for less traffic.
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I think it should be changed.
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WE could use a new sewage system.
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Ths cost is huge and we have all our sewage system to think about and how long will there be an enormous hole in the ground.
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This area is too residential and the two sides are too connected by services for this type of highway. Doing so would greatly increase the possibility of pedestrian/automobile accidents and deaths.
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still looks like a scar
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Would still create a barrier.
An open below-grade highway would make snow
and ice removal extremely difficult.
Problems with flooding would be just as bad as with a tunnel, but without the advantages of reduced snow-removal costs.
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This is an engineers solution to a large scale problem. There is a severe lack of a human scale approach. It meets traffic requirements but, in my opinion, does little to improve the day-to-day life of citizens.
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Flooding at Harrison & Almond
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Splits city more, not less
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Pedestrian crossing
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Doesn't address the issue of pedestrian safety. Still a barrier. Detracts from development nearby.
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Snow removal?
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Makes the highway limited in regards to accessibility
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Do not like the method this solution is delivered with.
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Still not a good pedestrian environment
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Still need more trees
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Keeps the same problem, just different form. Duplicates existing 481
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Doesn't enhance downtown
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Doesn't really improve connections between city proper & waterfront - missed opportunity. Doesn't look/work different overall.
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Still acts as a barrier between SU Hill & downtown. Noise and air pollution are not reduced.
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Seems designed to ease thru traffic - nothing to do with the 81 solution.
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This is a solution designed for thru traffic - which is only 10% and which can use 81
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Precipitation issues. More bridges needed.
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Doesn't solve division problem. How remove snow?
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Better than now, but still creates a barrier, and doesn't offer options to beautify the area.
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Looks like they just made more surface parking for stadiums
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Part of this plan includes elimination of entrances/exits which I don't think works for our section of 81 - especially around Adams Street
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Would feel like crossing a rail yard - very uncomfortable
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An alternative, but not a very good one. Still lots of traffic & noise.
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Divides the city. Does not work on the north side (inner harbor still unknown).
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Flooding
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