Station 6: Case studies of urban freeways

Here is what others have said about this case study:

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  • Opened land for development. Removed a barrier. Visually more attractive.
  • The project allowed the city to reconnect parts of the downtown grid.
  • Reconnects the urban grid and increased development in the core.
  • Opened up valuable redevelopment. Continued to carry thru-traffic.
  • Using the street grid to minimize traffic congestion
  • Not bad. Investigate commercial or empty land downtown. I don't think 81 should remain elevated, though.
  • Should open up development in the viaduct area and further downtown improvements to lifestyle to businesses.
  • Makes sense. Syracuse could benefit from this plan.
  • Highway relocation enabled attractive urban core development.
  • not much
  • I like how this opened up new space in downtown Providence
  • Gets rid of the viaduct
  • The fact that the highway was relocated not too far from its former location and commuters still had access to the downtown area and I-95.
  • Seems like a decent solution looking at cost.
  • Efficient for travel.
  • Would work well if similar industrial sector existed; would allow revitalization of current 81 area.
  • Unites downtown and the University without slowing commuters.
  • Move it! We do not need an excess of highways running through our neighborhoods. This would allow for redevelopment and connection from University Hill. Downtown has a lot to offer. 81 breaks the connection from the $$ to the businesses. Additionally, this would open opportunity for space for high speed rail.
  • This one seems like it would go well with High Speed Rail planning.
  • opens up downtown removes the 'scar'
  • Thru traffic would be diverted away from the downtown corridor. Much improved downtown environment in terms of noise, air quality and aesthetics. Reconnect downtown with Medical and SU complexes
  • I like that it too the highway out of downtown
  • I like that it removed the highway from the urban center
  • This solution sounds a little crazy but seems to have been quite successful - minimal disruption, reconnecting city
  • It attempts to face the urban areas and city toward each other
  • Would remove separation between I-81 (n/s of 690). Better flow
  • More similar to Syracuse - probably would work

  • No seemingly quick alternative route. All traffic must use 1 route.
  • Almost all traffic is local, there would be too much local congestion.
  • So whose neighborhood would be demolished?
  • Did you try to drive through Syracuse last year when 81 was shut down? Impossible!
  • Would cause problems somewhere else.
  • May move problem from one area to another.
  • Large scale expensive boondoggle.
  • Doesn't seem to make sense in our case.
  • Where would one relocate I-81? One wants people who work at SU, Upstate + those going to events to disperse rapidly.
  • Where would the highway go?
  • creates a MAJOR divide to waterfront area. I've driven this area, and while the construction is still a mess - it's almost completely cut off any direct business access to waterfront areas.
  • Loss of industrial space in the city
  • Completely getting rid of 81/rerouting on to 481 will make getting from the interchange south of the city to say SU or Carousel next to impossible.
  • Got a major auto transportation route out of the downtown.
  • Unlike Providence, we don't have an area to "relocate" to,
  • May have worked in "industrial" neighborhood, but in Syracuse you'd be condemning homes to get this done.
  • Syracuse does not have an old industrial north/south corridor within reasonable distance to downtown area.
  • NIMBY
  • This would kill what is left of the Syracuse business economy. Bad idea to divert traffic away from city.
  • What happens to view of water from farther upriver?
  • Difficult to find alternative location that wouldn't drastically affect existing neighborhoods.
  • Okay, but seems highly dependent on specifics of where the relocation route would be.
  • I don't like this because most of the I-81 traffic is trying to reach Syracuse, so why divert it?
  • $$, right-of-way.
  • No viable alternative through city.
  • Economic and social disruption. Cost would make this impractical.
  • Much more disruptive to city. Way too costly.
  • Where could I-81 be relocated to? Across the foot of the lake and send spurs to 690 East and West? I thnk it would raise havoc with emergency vehicles going to hospitals. Carousel Mall is close to the lake - where else could I-81 be placed?
  • Where would you relocate to? Are we creating more urban blight?
  • Our businesses are far too established to relocate.
  • $$$, Where? Eminent domain $$. Rebuild at present site 3 lanes.
  • Relocating the highway is a problem because we would have to destroy or disturb communities or untouched land and redirect the traffic which may bring more problems.
  • Relocation of the highway would delay the arrival and departing time of people from downtown.
  • What "industrial corridor" would we re-route this through? Our local geography limits the options. I81 comes up from the south through a natural glacial valley that doesn't end unti it reaches Syracuse. Hopping outside that glacial valley re to the next one to the east or west requires a large diversion "Diverting" traffic does not give anywhere near as good access to downtown businesses, Syracuse University, ESF, and Upstate Medical School, associated hospitals. It could not replace the most prevalent current use of I-81, which is access to/from downtown Syracuse. The only alternative corridor that I can see giving somewhat similar functionality is up through Midland Avenue to West St. West St. is an "industral corridor", yes. But Midland Ave. is not. Are we going to rip down another minority neighborhood, in the name of "progress??
  • 481 doesn't go anywhere
  • Relocating would just relocate the barrier
  • Was relocated to Providence's greatest natural resource - the waterfront. I wonder what the alternatives were.
  • Just use 481
  • Not a complete solution - it moves a symptom somewhere else.
  • Relocation would only put you farther from convenience
  • Blocks off a different section of the waterfront instead. 690 and 81 create a barrier to Onondaga Lake's waterfront (its shore can be important physical and visual amenity resource (even with water pollution).
  • Not a solution. Shifts existing problem. Duplicates existing I-481
  • We need to bring people to our center. We are not LA.
  • It cuts off water front from the city
  • Where would it go?