Station 5: Our transit system

Here is what others have said about LRT:

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  • Took the subway all the time when I lived in NYC and loved it. Light rail would be great here.
  • Syracuse already has a serviceable light-rail line passing through its center (the OnTrack rail line), which should immensely reduce initial costs.
  • As a railfan, I'd love to see LRT here in Syracuse. I sometimes imagine how I'd plan the routes if I were to build an LRT or subway system here. But let's face it -- this city can't even support decent bus service around the clock, so how can we afford to build and maintain LRT here?
  • I love trains.
  • LRT is just cool in its own way, assuming its electric, it will have less emissions than BRT and personal vehicles. We already have track for it, although expanding it would be awesome. It's great for connecting the 'burbs with the city, and most of the suburbs around here have track. Although this project is mainly for the Syracuse Metro Area, it would a great tool to utilize for connecting neighboring cities to the north and south.
  • We need options to reduce our 'need' for individual vehicles. Also, it will make it easier for those who do not own automobiles to commute on days when the weather is not conducive to bicycling and/or walking for long distances. Lastly, Syracuse/CNY was once known as a major center for unique modes of transportation. We can reclaim that identity.
  • Light rail transit.
  • It offers the clearest route (potential riders can see tracks around town and understand they are connected) unlike a bus. It adds a level of desirability to the corridor as well. Rail? Yes please!
  • LRT should only be used if our land use is supportive. Many streets aren't wide enough, are they?
  • Yes, light rail is great. Reducing the number of cars in the city should be a priority.
  • Obviously more costly than BRT - but worthwhile to look at smaller light rail system - predictable quarters for transit.
  • One of the options should be use of the "Pod" or PRT.
  • Most folks here that are pro LRT do not know anything about transportation. I would hope they would learn something.
  • LRT appears as old streetcar style - back to old Syracuse - I like it!
  • Rail would be a great addition to public transportation options, if affordable. Street cars would be great too. Whatever could enhance options, reduce auto travel within the city.
  • With the existing network of rail-line (spurs) in all various directions, incorporate light rail with several park n'ride lots to compliment current and/or future expanded CENTRO bus service.
  • LRT - I would support this! Buffalo has it, people use it.
  • Light rail great idea - along 81 and 690.
  • Sense of place. Destination and heritage.
  • Addresses stigma of bus. Brings T.O.D. and money.
  • A LTR from eastern burbs to city/hospitals/university would be great.
  • Utilized LRT in Portland. Works great! Might work great here also.
  • Better than cars.
  • I like the streetcars. I agree also renewable energy sources, electric, solar.
  • Streetcar option could be a good segue into LRT.
  • I think this is great. Syracuse was a streetcar city in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Best way to promote a denser urban form and combat sprawl, recreate the initial streetcar pattern/network.

  • Cost is unrealistic.
  • It costs more.
  • Don't like it because it's costly in the short-term (but do like it because it's truly worth it in the long-term).
  • Yes, anything but underground.
  • Expensive, ouch!
  • Transition is only efficient when it has its own row - and has limited street running. It is energy intensive (not good for our global warming Kool Aid drinking folks), overhead wiring can be ugly and high in maintenance. Poor in snowy and icy conditions - has to be subsided which equals high taxes. Also, need to have the population density to make sense.
  • LRT - insufficient population density in Syracuse for this concept to work.
  • Any mass transit change should be incorporating alternatives to fossil fuels.
  • LRT does provide alternatives.
  • This is why the high speed (60mph) interurbans in the 1920's died out here in NY. Geddes Street on the boulevard and Rte 174, were once the right of way for high speed trolleys.
  • Coupled with a boulevard for I-81 (and western bypass). Consider a light rail for the airport, downtown SU with spurs to Liverpool and Fayetteville.